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NavajoChief |
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Anyone play one of these new guitars???
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From the specs, it looks like it could be a really great guitar. I'm curious about it, too.
Mike Sampson
1930 Martin 0-18K -- Martin 0-18 Custom (Adi) -- Martin 0-28VS -- Martin 00-21GE -- Martin 000-18VS Custom -- Martin 000-28VS -- Martin D-18GE -- Santa Cruz OMS -- Kennedy OM -- 1970s Guild F-212 |
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Played one up at Nazfest on Monday morning after the factory tour. IMHO, it was very strong, reminiscent of a D-28CW or D-28 Marquis. Nice tight bass with
ringing mids and full trebs. The one I played was set up perfectly and had a very appealing, understated appearance.
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WaveRay |
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The specs mention the braces are "rear shifted". Does that mean they're farther back than the standard "non forward shifted" bracing of
the standard D-28? Or is it just worded weird?
Ray
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WaveRay wrote: The D-28 Marquis has Standard ''X'' Scalloped (Golden Era Style), Forward Shifted, while a D-28 has "Standard "X"" and the D-28 Elvis Presley has "Standard ''X'' Scalloped" so I'm guessing that Standard ''X'' Scalloped (Golden Era Style), Rear Shifted is different again...
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I played the prototype in the factory Monday as well...I didn't have a morror, but I think the braces were the same as the HD-28 (standard X, scalloped),
except that the scalloping is the Golden Era style. It was too noisy in there for me to hear it very well, but it felt good...it seemed to be pretty loud...
Tom Buck
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kydave |
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Woo hoo! Now that looks like my kinda Martin (other than that darn Mod V thing)!!
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Buck49 wrote:+1. Loud is good. Tempting I thought.
Jeff
1949 O-15 1976 D-28 1988 D12-18 |
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Topographic |
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Doesn't he endorse Bourgeois guitars?
Since I already kind of hijacked this thread wil all this Bourgeois talk How did you get turned onto Elixir® Strings? "I was at a bluegrass festival in Telluride, Colorado. And I remember there were some Elixir® strings laying around backstage. Someone had mentioned that they were there to try out. I took two packages of the strings, and I put them in my guitar case. I had them in the outside pocket of my case where they sat for probably three or four months. I basically forgot about them. I was going in to do a session in Virginia,, and I remember opening up the guitar case and the strings that were on my guitar were horrible. I thought, okay, I need to change strings. And I looked through and I didn't have any of my strings, but I remembered that in the side pocket were these Elixir® coated strings. I thought, well, okay. They're bound to be better than what's on here. Put the strings on the guitar and sat in front of the microphone, and Tim Austin, who was engineering, looked at me. He put both thumbs up. He was like, "Sounds great!" I said, "Wow. It does sound great." I remember sliding up and down the neck, and it took all of about 30 seconds to fall completely in love with how the strings felt on my hands. I didn't realize at the time how long they were going to last. I was dumbfounded as each day I would pick up the guitar, and it sounded the same as it did the day before. I'd spent a lifetime learning that that wasn't possible! The first thing that attracted me to the strings was how they felt on my hands. When you slid, when you made a chord, they were quiet. I was in the studio environment so I was a little hypersensitive to wanting everything to be just so. That was the first thing I noticed. How quiet they were. The tone sounded great. When I first started using them people said, "You know, I've seen those strings, but they're really expensive." And I try to explain to people, "Think about what you're spending on strings and think about how long they last. These strings are a fraction of the price of the other strings if you like tone." And that's where I remain. I was thrilled when the strings went from the Polyweb® to the Nanoweb® because tonally I thought they were a little bit brighter, which I wanted. The original Polyweb® coated strings were just a little bit dark sounding. Some instruments need that. Some instruments really need the brightness. Personally, when they went to the Nanoweb® coating and the strings became a little bit brighter, man, life got good! I went into the studio the day before yesterday, and I was playing a guitar instrumental. I played it a couple of times, and the guy who was engineering said, "Have you changed your strings recently?" And I said, "You know, I haven't changed them in a little while, but they still sound good to me." He says, "I'm just having to dig a little bit for the high end. If you don't mind, go ahead and change them." I thought, no problem. So I put a new set of strings on. I sat back in front of the microphone, and he goes, "No. It was me. They sound exactly the same." If it weren't for fear of breaking them, I don't know if I'd ever change them! As far as selling guitars, anyone who puts a set of phosphor bronze strings on a guitar and is going to hang it on the wall in his guitar shop for multiple people to play is crazy. I think people will look back and say, "Gosh, a lot more guitars sold once people picked it up and they had (Elixir®) strings on them." I truly believe that. I pick up a lot of guitars off the walls of guitar stores, and just immediately put the guitar back on the wall because I would have had to change the strings to even get an idea of what the guitar had. Elixirs offer a freedom that other strings just won't let you have. If you walk in and you've got a wall full of guitars and they all sound great when you take them down, what do you think your chances of selling a guitar are going to be? Huge!"
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Doesn't he endorse Bourgeois guitars?I don't know about that, but the several times I've seen him, he's been playing that old D-28. |
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Yeah, I know, Dave. I love the sound of that thing. There are several tracks on their 2-disk live cd where it sound gorgeous. I think the third track on Disk 1
is an example...epecially the way it blends with whatever Block is playing.
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kydave wrote: From the Bourgeois site: Listen for Bourgeois Guitars on Dan Tyminski's great solo release "Carry Me across the Mountain". Here's an excerpt from an interview with Dan in "Flatpicking Guitar" magazine: "I recently got a Bourgeois and it is an amazing guitar from the workmanship to the tonal qualities. Dana Bourgeois is a talented, talented man. Ron (Block) has one of his guitars too and although mine is a Brazilian and his is mahogany, it is equally a killer guitar. They are two different animals entirely, but his works well for the slow, pretty sustain type things that he does. They are built for two different purposes. With every guitar that I've seen Dana build I have been very impressed with the workmanship. If you really get down into the nooks and crannies, you cannot see a bead of glue or a space or crack anywhere. He spends a lot of time making them right." Check out the entire article here. In 2005 we built Dan Tyminski a Vintage D in Madagascar Rosewood and Red "Adirondack" Spruce.
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Topographic wrote:Every time I've seen him he has been playing a Martin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8LCYS_85Dk I enjoyed the story about strings.
1969 Brazilian Rosewood D-35
2001 D-41DF - Dan Fogelberg 2004 LXM - Little Martin 2008 JC-16ME Maple Aura 2009 Grand J12-40E |
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I bow to nobody in my admiration for Dan Tyminski's guitar skills and his singing voice. His D28 artist model is possibly the classiest I have seen Martin
put out so far, and no need for a Sharpie.
However, having tried them once, I still won't be using Elixir coated strings again. I didn't like what I could hear player-side, so I recorded them (admittedly with a portable Olympus thingy) but they sounded on the recording like the soundhole had been stuffed with loft insulation. He's right about one thing though, they do last forever (more's the pity).
CONOR
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I tried Elixirs as well and didn't care for them. Phosphor Bronze strings have an initial brash harshness to them that takes a few hours of play to wear
off. After that they sound fantastic to these ears until they go dead. Elixirs lock in that sound forever, which is the opposite of what I want.
I like a bright string but the Elixirs were too bright and harsh for me. It's amazing how people can perceive tone so differently... this next quote ensures that I will never try Nanowebs! The original Polyweb® coated strings were just a little bit dark sounding. Some instruments need that. Some instruments really need the brightness. Personally, when they went to the Nanoweb® coating and the strings became a little bit brighter, man, life got good! |
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I was in the GC in Indy about a couple of months ago, comparing various Martins when a Martin rep/tech came in to service the guitars. We talked for an hour
and a half and I got quite an education about the subtle difference in models Martins. He recommended Martin Phosphor Bronze strings but was restringing all
the Martins there with Elixirs. He said they were better for all the handling the guitars would get in the store. I guess you can draw your own conclusions
from that. I like the way Polywebs feel but they get "fuzzy" after awhile. They do last a long time and are nice - if you like their characteristic
sound. I haven't tried Nanowebs but I eventually will. I put some D' Addarios that claimed that they were coated, but I wouldn't swear by it. I
don't know how a coated string can color your fingers like those did. Pricey too.
Anyway, I think I'll do like the man said and use Martins. . . unless I Really like the Nanos. |
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sepulchre wrote:Interesting. A while back a was speaking with the owner of the local music shop where I've acquired my Martins about strings and he told me Martin requires all dealers to use nothing but Martin strings on their guitars. Has there been a change in policy here?
Rich
(2005) HD-28; (2008) 000-28EC; (2005) OM-18V; (1971) Guild F30NT |
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jakepicks |
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A Martin Dealer said Martin wanted their strings on their guitars in the stores....I had been trying a D28 Marquis with Martin strings of some kind, that were
wall -weary....and asked them to string the guitar with Elixirs....I do use Nanoweb Elixirs/medium light...like playing with a condom on your hand....John
Pearce pb meds. behind that...
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Topographic wrote:He might, but only played his '46 D-28 when I saw the band at the Carter Fold a few weeks ago |
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soundnpix |
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Whenever I've seen AKUS, it was Ron Block playing a Bourgeois (as well as a couple Martins).
Tom
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I've played one now and am in the process of selling guitars to afford to buy the Tyminski. WOW! Big, punchy, balanced sound, good looks, nice neck that is
decidedly different from the normal "Mod V" neck. I think the way the elongated volute flows into the neck behind the nut affects the way it feels in
open chord positions... in a good way for my preference.
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