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Brent Hutto		#41	[-]
(11/03/09 10:20 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.fws.gov/permits/faqs/FaqR.shtml This is a one-paragraph summary with links to more details about forms and whatnot. By the way, the PDF forms linked to on the above page are only for the USA side. There will be equivalent but different procedures for the particular other countries you will be entering or exiting.
Howard Klepper		#42	[-]
(11/04/09 1:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Bump.
John Thomas		#43	[-]
(11/05/09 8:31 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Hmm. I thought that I felt my virtual ears burning. I'm sorry to have missed the opportunity to generate a bit more "scaremongery" on Halloween. I'm sorry, too, not to have learned earlier that my guitar was not seized, but was merely vacationing in a USFWS office not near me Howard Klepper wrote: How is it that a customs agent tells the difference between Mad rose and BRW? Howard, the agents with whom I've spoken use the USDA CITES I-II-III Timber Species Manual and USFWS CITES Identification Guide: Tropical Woods". The spokesperson for the CITES Secretariat in Geneva recommended both publications to me when I interviewed him. As you'll undoubtedly note on page 95 of that 210 page CITES Identification Guide, Brazilian rosewood is a "Wood with prominent apotracheal banded parenchyma." Howard Klepper wrote: Question for John (or anyone who knows): how does the new reporting law define "importer" or "exporter"? Is it limited to commercial purpose, or am I an exporter when I carry my guitar into Canada and an importer when I bring it back? If it is limited to commercial purpose, how about if I take a couple of guitars to show in Montreal as not-for-sale samples? I don't have a lot of new information. As best I can figure, most guitars are sailing across borders without incident. I did receive an email message from Steve Anderson, who reported that one of his guitars was seized for several days, er, I mean vacationed for several days with USFWS for the failure of Steve's client to file the disclosure forms when he shipped it back to the US from Australia for some warranty work. Steve had resolved to replace the pearl logo inlay with some man made material before shipping it back. I'll check with my contacts and report back. .... John www.johnthomasguitar.com Please visit www.bannergibsons.com to see what Willi and I are doing!
fivetonsflax		#44	[-]
(11/06/09 1:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Ah yes, the apotracheal banded parenchyma -- of course! ;-) -- Ben Rosengart
MartinD1	Gibson / CITES	#45	[-]
(11/17/09 4:32 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	From the Nashville Post today: 11-17-2009 1:40 PM - Federal agents and local police today seized wood, guitars, computers and boxes of files from Gibson Guitar's Massman Road manufacturing facility. Sources say the Nashville-based guitar manufacturer is charged with violating the Lacey Act, a key piece of environmental law, for importing endangered species of rosewood from Madagascar. Rosewood is widely used in the construction of guitars and sells for $5,000 per cubic meter, more than double the price of mahogany. The island nation off Africa's east coast is a key producer of the hardwood, the export of which has links to international criminal activity. Madagascar has struggled financially since a January coup and new President Andry Rajoelina issued an executive order in September legalizing the export of rosewood and ebony. The move was decried by environmental groups and political leaders worldwide, as hardwood forests are key to Madagascar's unique ecology and serve as a habitat for a dwindling lemur population. Sources tell NashvillePost.com Gibson was involved in a scheme that shipped the wood from Madagascar to Germany and then to the United States.
Canonmillbilly		#46	[-]
(11/18/09 1:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I went to the CITES web site - it's a morass of info; some brief searching revealed nothing about musical instruments relevant to this thread. But I remembered coming across this: http://www.bluegrasswales.org/CITES.htm I can't vouch for its accuracy given the passage of time and the changing nature of legislation, however, it is at least CITES-related advice aimed at musicians. Steven Devon, UK D-18V
okiepicker		#47	[-]
(11/19/09 5:36 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Post deleted. Okie 1990 D-28 2007 HD-28 Last Edited By: okiepicker 11/20/09 6:12 PM. Edited 1 times.
fivetonsflax		#48	[-]
(11/19/09 8:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Well, I'd love to get into that with you, but there is this little "no politics" rule around here, so I can't. Member to member, I respectfully ask you to follow the rule too. -- Ben Rosengart
fivetonsflax		#49	[-]
(11/21/09 6:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Thanks. -- Ben Rosengart
jscio		#50	[-]
(11/21/09 6:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	fivetonsflax wrote: Ah yes, the apotracheal banded parenchyma -- of course! Northern or southern............?

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