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ECarter	Couple of questions	Lead	[-]
(06/28/09 3:36 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I just got a set of ebony bridge and end pins to replace the plastic ones that came on my DM supposed to improve the sound but I mostly like the black color. The guitar has a new set of strings do I need to re-string it our can I just loosen the strings, one at a time, and replace the pins? Also, I know that Martin does not recommend using a polish on satin finished guitars, in spite of the fact that they sell one, is there any objection or issue with using Finger-ease? Thanks.
Bob6870		#1	[-]
(06/28/09 3:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You can certainly loosen the strings and inser te new pins. At least that way you'll have a comparison between existing pins and new pins with the same set of strings. I don't know anything about Finger--ease. Bob 2007 Martin GC Custom D RW; 2008 Martin HD35; 2009 Martin 00X1
thethinman		#2	[-]
(06/28/09 3:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	As Bob6870 said, it's fairly easy to change out the pins. Just a tip for you, after loosening the strings, put a capo on the neck anywhere it's convenient, just in case any of the ball ends pop out when you pull the plastic pins. That way, the strings don't get tangled and it's easy to get the right string back in the right hole. Mark
Heptone		#3	[-]
(06/28/09 4:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If it were me, I would not use Finger-Ease as a polish. It is not made for that (it's supposed to be used as a string lubricant). I don't know that it would be harmful to a finish, but I wouldn't bet against it. ~ Greg ~ OM-28V ~ D-18VS Assorted Weber & Flatiron Mandos http://www.soundclick.com/bands/Heptone
Bob6870		#4	[-]
(06/28/09 4:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	+1 on what Mark says. I always put a capo on the first or second fret when I loosen the strings to do a saddle or bridge pin change. I've never had a ball-end pop out of the bridge as you can usually tell when you've loosened the string enough. Bob 2007 Martin GC Custom D RW; 2008 Martin HD35; 2009 Martin 00X1
ECarter		#5	[-]
(06/28/09 7:47 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If it were me, I would not use Finger-Ease as a polish. It is not made for that (it's supposed to be used as a string lubricant). I had no intention of using it as a polish. Martin makes a point of saying that certain substances will damage the finish on their fingerboards like lemon oil. I was just wondering if Finger-ease used on the strings would damage the finger board.
ECarter		#6	[-]
(06/28/09 7:48 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Just a tip for you, after loosening the strings, put a capo on the neck anywhere it's convenient, just in case any of the ball ends pop out when you pull the plastic pins. Good idea. Thanks. Ed
ECarter	Way off topic idea of a trade	#7	[-]
(06/28/09 7:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Can't post this on the Buy/Sell section as it does not relate to a trade in the tradition of the forum. If this gets deleted I certainly understand. I am not proposing anything illegal but I do have something of value not of a musical nature but tangible to trade for a new Martin Guitar. Under the circumstances it might be best if this is taken off line so e-mail me directly and I will be glad to explain. Hope this is OK with the moderator. Ed
ECarter		#8	[-]
(06/30/09 9:56 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, I replaced the plastic bridge pins on my DM with the Martin Ebony pins with inlay. Not sure I like the result. Now the tone seems to have changed with a lot more bass and more treble. I'll see how it sounds in a couple of days otherwise I'm going to put the original pins back in place. Maybe I should have left well enough alone. Anyone else experience this?
asguitar1		#9	[-]
(06/30/09 10:17 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Is that a problem with more bass and treble? Give the strings a day or two to re-stretch and I am sure you will be pleased. 2001 JC-16RGTE 2005 Santa Cruz OM Short Scale Mahogany 2005 LX1 1997 Epiphone Broadway 1999 Gamboa Charango
ECarter		#10	[-]
(06/30/09 3:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Is that a problem with more bass and treble? No, not really but something just does not sound right. I did not replace the strings just loosened them and replaced the pins one at a time. I tuned the guitar but not sure I like the result. However, I will wait a couple of days before going back to the original pins.
Ozark1951		#11	[-]
(07/01/09 10:04 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"A lot more bass and treble" That's why most of us go with ebony pins. I love the result, personally. I'm just a rolling stone, down the lost highway. Martin D18VS, Recording King RD 227 Red Bear Picks
kmacguitar	Possibly have one or two strings not seated properly...	#12	[-]
(07/01/09 1:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	if you think you've got one or more dead strings you can look inside with a long handled mirror on a stick from an auto parts store($5) and make sure the ball ends are tight up against the bridge plate, not a bad idea every time you change strings to check. If it's just that the bass and trebble are preforming better, then maybe the problem is you, just kidding, but get another guitar to compare yours to, most of us are pretty pleased to get more bass AND trebble out of a simple pin change, I think you are on to sometihng, more is better, you might want to experiment with different brands of strings to even out the mids and keep the improved bass and trebble, Kerry
Buck49		#13	[-]
(07/02/09 4:08 PM) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Never get Finger-Ease close to a guitar! Not even for what it's supposed to used for. It's a poor poduct, contains silicone, and should not be used on guitars. Get yourself a silicone free product to use on the strings. Tom Buck
Rockradstone		#14	[-]
(07/02/09 4:14 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Never get Finger-Ease close to a guitar! Not even for what it's supposed to used for. It's a poor poduct, contains silicone, and should not be used on guitars. Get yourself a silicone free product to use on the strings. I'll second that! Silicone is the enemy to finishes---for future repairs and/or refinish jobs. The only thing you need to put on the strings is your fingers. -Rick
Tom West		#15	[-]
(07/02/09 8:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If your pin holes are sloted properly you should be able to remove your bridge pins at full tension. And it should stay in tune. But certainly this is not what you want to do .These new pins may not fit properly and the holes may have to be reamed. Also you should have the correct taper pins for your guitar. When removing your strings from the pin holes do it in pairs,EA,DG,BEand coil them in these pairs,this really helps to prevent tangles. Try your pins, they may fit as is. Good Luck. Tom.
ECarter		#16	[-]
(07/03/09 9:13 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tom West wrote: If your pin holes are sloted properly you should be able to remove your bridge pins at full tension. And it should stay in tune. But certainly this is not what you want to do .These new pins may not fit properly and the holes may have to be reamed. Also you should have the correct taper pins for your guitar. When removing your strings from the pin holes do it in pairs,EA,DG,BEand coil them in these pairs,this really helps to prevent tangles. Try your pins, they may fit as is. Good Luck. Tom. Thanks for the replys. The ebony pins were Martin pins so they should fit. I was going to replace them this morning with the original plastic pins that came on the guitar but decided to play the guitar to see if the sound improved. Maybe it's my imagination but everything seems OK now so I left the ebony pins on. I guess it just took a few days for the strings to settle. As for the Finger Ease I'll just throw it away. On the other hand since it contains silicone maybe I can use it to lubricate my patio door and screen.
kydave		#17	[-]
(07/10/09 9:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	From Chem-Pak, makers of FingerEase in response to my inquiry about the product and acoustic guitar finishes: <Thank you for contacting Chem-Pak regarding your questions about Finger Ease. The product is a synthetic base with silicone polymer additives. Finger Ease has been used on guitars of all types from the late 1960's to the present by professional, amateur, and hobbyist musicians. Based on the longtime market presence without issue and without complaint, we believe the product is non-damaging to wood and fingerboards. I hope this helps and we appreciate your use of Finger Ease Guitar String Lubricant. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other questions or concerns.> Kentucky Dave's Martins: 00-28H (2006 Custom); SP000-16R (1999 Special Edition); 0000-28H (1999); D-28 (1971) myspace.davetrabue and beargrasscreek Piraticus 13:7 , , <> ^^^
Buck49		#18	[-]
(07/10/09 10:59 PM) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Based on the longtime market presence without issue and without complaint, I've complained to them. I guess I don't count. Tom Buck

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