Installing Newtones on a Slotted Headstock

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MassWineGuy	Installing Newtones on a Slotted Headstock	Lead	[-]
(06/26/09 10:26 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Has anyone ever installed Newtone strings on a slotted headstock, cut the excess string off before bringing it up to pitch and still had the strings work well? Being round core, I know Newtone cautions to cut excess string after you bring them to tension. For me, stringing a guitar can be a brutal experience. I can't figure how to avoid cutting the excess string off first and not scratch the hades out of my headstock. Thank you.
ASC67		#1	[-]
(06/26/09 11:26 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I would think that if you crimp the windings on the string fist with a pair of pliers and then cut it the string probably wouldn't unwind. Steve _______________________________________________________________ 2003 D-18 * 2006 Masterbilt DR500M * 2008 CV Strat
Bearclaw Dave		#2	[-]
(06/26/09 2:08 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ken, in addition to wearing safety glasses and stocking band-aids, you might find Frank's technique of interest. It certainly minimizes the amount of turns required to lock in the string, which obviously lessens the chance of marring the headstock. http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/Musician/Guitar/Setup/SteelStrings/Stringing/slotheadstr1.html
MassWineGuy		#3	[-]
(06/26/09 2:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you, Steve and Dave. I've looked at Frank Ford's page before. Maybe I'll try it, but I don't think I have the dexterity.
desaljs		#4	[-]
(06/26/09 2:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	MWG, I would not cut those Newtones before they were up to tension. I recall reading some posts here about the potential for trouble if you do that. When I string up my slotheads, I do cut the string before winding. But everything I use is hex core, and I have never had a problem with unwinding. Those Newtones are not cheap, so I would hate to read about you having a problem. At the same time, I would not enjoy stringing my slotheads without pre-cutting the strings! The locking technique might be the way to go. And............I know you can do it!!!!!!! Jim D
MassWineGuy		#5	[-]
(06/26/09 4:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ok. I'm going to borrow What About Bob again so I can gain courage watching Bill Murray. Bring me those strings!
Bearclaw Dave		#6	[-]
(06/26/09 4:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	That's the stuff, Ken! Baby steps!
RogueBrit		#7	[-]
(06/26/09 7:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Very many years ago, I bought a then new 0-16NY and was obsessive about avoiding scratches - I always slipped a length of plastic tube (I used the earth shroud material used by electricians in the UK - no idea if its used in the States) over the excess string before winding up - removing it afterwards. If you slip it on and put a slight kink in the string it stops it falling off. Might work for you.. Roger
Mike1951		#8	[-]
(06/26/09 7:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have been using Newtones on my 00-18VS for a couple of years with no scratches. Hold onto the string end and gently feed it through on each wind. You only need a couple of winds, maybe 1 inch of slack. I use the Taylor method except for cutting the strings. Mike 000-18GESB, UMGF 0018VS #59, CA Cargo, Washburn parlor "new model" circa 1890
moocatdog		#9	[-]
(06/26/09 8:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	+1 for Mike's approach above. It's quite simple to ease a full length string past the wood surfaces as you tighten the wind. George "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we now know it was bad economics." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
MassWineGuy		#10	[-]
(06/26/09 11:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Roger and Mike, thank you for the encouragement and great idea about plastic tubing.
MPS		#11	[-]
(06/27/09 8:08 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've had the same question, not about Newtones but DR Sunbeams. This is really helpful. Mike Sampson Martin 0-18 Custom (Adi) -- Martin 0-28VS -- Martin 00-21 GE -- Martin 000-18VS Custom -- Martin D-18 GE -- Santa Cruz OMS -- Kennedy OM -- 1970s Guild F-212
0021fan		#12	[-]
(06/27/09 10:06 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I regularly use Newtone Custom 80/20s and/or PBs from Guitar Gal on my Maurer 12-fret. I use the cut-off and right-angle crimp method for installation with no slippage problems. I guess the crimp helps prevent the slippage.
MassWineGuy		#13	[-]
(06/27/09 11:30 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Mike, are the Sunbeams round core. too? How do you like them?

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