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Well, then I'm imperfect, for sure. I liked a few of his songs and his dancing. Don't own any recordings, though.
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I sat front row center at a Jackson 5 concert with my older sister when I was maybe 12. He was an amazing performer who like so many became prisoners of their
own notoriety.
I feel for his mother, not so much for the scrambling hoard that is likely coming for leftovers. Brad
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Seems like no matter what you do in life somehow everyone ends up a great guy when they die.
It may not be politically correct but I have a lot of trouble fawning over eccentric celebrities whether they are dead or alive. Yes, he and Quincy Jones made some great music, together they changed music and culture, however, this guy hasn't done anything other than be a despicable human being for the last 15 years. So many people are saying "What a great lose?" For who? When was the last time he made any contribution to the world, if ever? How is your day different today than yesterday? I do feel bad for his family, as I do for any soul that passes, but he does not get a free pass from me. Karl Marx once called religion the opiate of the masses, today in America, celebrity is the opiate of the masses. This self absorbed and very questionable person has managed to knock two wars, a brewing revolution and a nuclear threat of off the front pages. As George Carlin said, "The world is a freak show and if your an American you get a front row seat." Come on, this guy was a poster boy for everything that is wrong with our society. It's my opinion and I'm sorry if you don't like it or agree.
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His music was some of the most danceable stuff I can think of. It is regrettable his marvelous artistry would ultimately be overshadowed by so much strangeness
in his personal life.
Tony
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Sinatra praised the `sincerity and delivery' of his vocals; McCartney is on record applauding his songwriting ability. Astaire - MJ's all-time dance guru - was moved to do a `piece to camera' (interview) eulogizing MJ's dancing ability after being present at the Appolo for the iconoclastic live `Billie Jean' performance. Here's what one more icon had to say about MJ...
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however, this guy hasn't done anything other than be a despicable human being for the last 15 years...Come on, this guy was a poster boy for everything that is wrong with our societyHey Zip -- It seems that people who amass enormous fame & wealth, especially beginning in childhood, tend to get hit with enormous collateral damage to the ego as well. It's the story of Citizen Kane & Rosebud all over again. This is just a hunch on my part, since I have managed to avoid fame & wealth all my life. So my approach to the Michael Jacksons & Elizabeth Taylors & Elvis Presleys of the world -- people who got weird after fame & fortune -- is this: judge not lest ye be judged. They've had temptations that I'll never know. I just enjoy some of their art, pass on the rest, and ignore the tabloid stories as much as possible. As far as MJ's music -- personally, I like some Jackson 5 and a little of his solo stuff. I generally prefer his contemporaries & influencers like James Brown, The Temptations & Stevie Wonder.
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It's the story of Citizen Kane & Rosebud all over again. It reminds me more of Sunset Boulevard & Norma Desmond. |
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Great clip. Thanx Michael.
Guess I'm a little out of step here. Where I come from we don't bad mouth someone who passed less than 24-hours ago - whatever our personal thoughts happen to be. |
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outfidel wrote:I believe we have a moral obligation to judge between right and wrong, and I do believe there are absolutes as well as matters of opinion and personal conviction. We can't have an ordered society without discriminating between good and evil. However, this isn't the right place for those judgements or other political discussion. Here we talk about guitars, music, family and friends - but sometimes we drift...
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Well put, Todd
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...sometimes we drift...But why sometimes we drift in life, what makes us go off course, the flaw in the beauty, the inclusion in the diamond, when and how it will surface, is an eternal question, one worth asking and at the heart of both literature and life. It isn't dissing him to suggest that it's not possible to say his path paralleled the normal courses life usually follows, or that there are similar examples of such a thing happening before in life and art. And there are many who have also had genius in many disciplines without so much as a whiff of weirdness or scandal. Michael Jackson is a tragic figure, but his story is very real, and as for how we should choose our words, I'll go with the bard: The weight of this sad time we must obey Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say... ~Kent, King Lear Act V, Scene III |
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or, as a more recent bard said:
I've taken my bows And my curtain calls You brought me fame and fortune And everything that goes with it I thank you all But it's been no bed of roses No pleasure cruise
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sausgirl wrote: That's the one, thanks!
David
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Umm ... the mods have been very clear what it's going to take to get this thread closed. Two MJ threads have already been shut down because they veered.
I ain't saying anybody's wrong here, I'm just sayin'.
David
They said, "You have a blue guitar, you do not play things as they are." The man replied, "Things as they are, are changed upon the blue guitar." -Wallace Stevens
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I still think of him as an incredibly talented young guy with his brothers on those early hits, making me tap my toes like crazy in high school. Really good
stuff, at the time. We used to listen to them during WRESTLING practice, of all things.
My condolences to his family, friends and fans. I can only imagine how many lawyers will be incredibly busy sorting out his estate. Rhys
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SixxStringer wrote: ZZZzzzzzAAAAAAaaaaaaPPPPPppp!!!!!!! |
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SixxStringer wrote:Alas, Richard, that's not me in the video -- I have a little more hair & a lot less talent
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I think when you strip away all the strange that accompanied him, what you find is one of the
great entertainers of the past 50 years. He is an industry icon and, I think, truly belongs there. He was one of the few who could - really - do it all. And he touched a lot of people with his gifts. I don't think of him as a happy man, and that's very sad. You'd think with all that he had and all those who cherished him, he'd be content. No - I really don't think so. RIP |
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I have my thoughts which will stay with me....a talent, nobody can deny that.
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Don Hurley wrote:You are not out of step here. Where I come from we call it being a gentleman. As one of your countrymen once wrote, "every man's death diminishes me." Ron |
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