Anyone use bone pins in there hog instead of ebony?

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Johnny Canso	Anyone use bone pins in there hog instead of ebony?	Lead	[-]
(06/11/09 1:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None ??? Johnny 64LG-1/ 71 000-18/ 75 D-18 / 08 D-18/ 08 HD-16R
kevlar		#1	[-]
(06/11/09 3:02 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I tried it, and found it a little too bright/harsh on an already bright guitar. Switched to water buffalo horn, and it's perfect. Not a whole lot different than ebony, maybe slightly fuller sounding.
Bearclaw Dave		#2	[-]
(06/11/09 3:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Johnny, while my 1976 D-18 was having its neck reset and a new bridge and plate installed, the luthier suggested I try bone pins, so I ordered a set of buffalo horn from Bob Colosi (sonically similar to bone but black like ebony) that he used with a set of Martin 4150 PBs. After a couple of days of this combination I simply couldn't stand the tinniness of the tone any more and switched out the horn for my old ebony pins and restrung the box with Pearse 80/20s. Life was once again good. Now, my experience is absolutely useless to answering your question since I can't differentiate btwn the effects of the PB strings, or the horn pins, or the combination of both in creating the level of tinniness I heard. But you've got me curious, and this weekend I'll swap out the ebonies for the buffalo horns using the same strings that are on it now and do an A/B. (And then there's the old Neil Young trick of using half and half, three of each, but of course he's on rosewood.) Dave
kydave		#3	[-]
(06/11/09 3:23 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I use horn pins instead of plastic... Kentucky Dave's Martins: 00-28H (2006 Custom); SP000-16R (1999 Special Edition); 0000-28H (1999); D-28 (1971) myspace.davetrabue and beargrasscreek Piraticus 13:7 , , <> ^^^
SixxStringer		#4	[-]
(06/11/09 3:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've got a set of FWI pins that I have been thinking of putting on my 000-17S..... Richard My Video of "Hiscox Drop Test" Hiscox Lite-Flite Cases (U.S. Dealer)
Johnny Canso		#5	[-]
(06/11/09 3:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Dave: Larry Cragg, Neil Young's guitar tech since forever uses ebony pins on the bass strings & horn on the trebs, but i do just the opposite & it sounds really good on my Martin's. The buffalo horn gives a nice woody tone to the bass strings that bone makes shimmer & the ebony pins give that nice warm ring on the trebles that i love so much from a martin guitar. Give it a try this weekend & let me know what you think......i use horn pins in all my hog guitars but i haven't tried them in a rosewood Martin as of yet, but Young's 1940"s D-28 sounds real good with that set up!!!! Johnny 64LG-1/ 71 000-18/ 75 D-18 / 08 D-18/ 08 HD-16R
Bearclaw Dave		#6	[-]
(06/11/09 4:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Give it a try this weekend & let me know what you think..... Good idea, will do...thanks for the tip!
ASC67		#7	[-]
(06/11/09 5:30 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Bone might be a little harsh on a hog but Buffalo Horn sounds great on my D-18. Steve _______________________________________________________________ 2003 D-18 * 2006 Masterbilt DR500M * 2008 CV Strat
waterpoet57		#8	[-]
(06/11/09 5:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No, plastic or ebony is just fine with mahogany. As somebody's strap-line says, "Jest play yer geetar". CONOR 2005 D-18GE (Lady Gwendolen) \| 2006 000-15S (Lady Grania) \| Backpacker (Miranda G) \| Forum Intro P70 For the Great Gaels of Ireland are the men that God made mad For all their wars are happy and all their songs are sad from The Ballad of the White Horse by G.K. Chesterton
MPkrNth		#9	[-]
(06/11/09 7:34 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I use Willi's high density pins in my '52 D-18 and I just love them. Dennis Berck made the suggestion and I had him slot the bridge and fill and redrill a bit of wear on the bridgeplate. Nothing serious there. It was a totally different guitar when it came back. I"m having the same pins put in another D-18 he is just about to return. I don't find the pins make the sound shrill or thin at all. In fact it sounds a lot like my Authentic to be honest. Not sure if it's just this guitar, but will know when the next one comes back.
wa3jpg		#10	[-]
(06/11/09 11:51 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah, I like bone pins on my mahogany Guild. I changed out from plastic, then ebony, then buffalo horn, and now bone. I slotted the bridge and bought unslotted bone pins from Bob Colosi and they work just wonderfully with the string / pick combination that I use. Clark Clark S. Turner Los Osos, CA. Martin D-28 Marquis, D-18GE, Guild DV-4 Darnton Octave Mandolin, Sobell 4 course cittern 1926 Gibson A4, Newell flat top mandolin.
mudpuppy55		#11	[-]
(06/12/09 3:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I wanted to replace the "original" mismatched pins that came w/my '35 0-17, so I foolishly bought bone. Looked nice, but made it sound like a National. Since then I went to ebony and buffalo horn. Both work equally well for pulling out that soft/smokey tone of Hog. Makes me want to go home and take her out for a spin Necturus maculosus (A.K.A. mudpuppy) Chuck, Mi.
guitarmore		#12	[-]
(06/12/09 8:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm using wood pins ( a light colored wood, like maple) and they produce a full and balanced sound. GuitarMore.com
rockawayrocks		#13	[-]
(06/13/09 6:56 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm using wood pins Ditto. After dropping about $70 between a set of bone and horn pins, my D18 sounds best with a set of $11 Snakewood pins from Stew-Mac. Tom
mudpuppy55		#14	[-]
(06/13/09 9:24 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like snakewood a lot. In addition to pins, I've used it for strap buttons and end pins. To me it looks classy and does both jobs. Necturus maculosus (A.K.A. mudpuppy) Chuck, Mi.
Bearclaw Dave		#15	[-]
(06/13/09 10:46 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Give it a try this weekend & let me know what you think...... Well, I must say I did not expect to actually hear much difference, but in fact I noticed a very pronounced increase in the tightness and clarity (and perhaps volume?) when I switched my standard ebony pins to buffalo horn using the same set of strings. I tried the 3+3 but then swapped them all. It is a very nice sound, certainly different than with all ebony, but not necessarily better...I still like the nice warm sharp thump I get with the black wooden pins But I'll enjoy these horns too. Thanks Johnny!
D18RC		#16	[-]
(06/13/09 11:03 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	+1 Water buffalo on my mahogany Rockbridge. R. Curry (Rockbridges and a Gallagher)
BillDuck		#17	[-]
(06/14/09 8:38 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have some mahogany guitars. One with bone (no dots), one with ebony (abalone dots), one with FWI (black dots) and one with black buffalo horn (no dots). The FWI with black dots look the best to me. Sometimes, the bone is just a little too plain looking. Your Signature ...
MPS		#18	[-]
(06/14/09 9:48 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I like buffalo horn pins for a bit of extra clarity and focus, and ebony pins to preserve the woody tone of a light, resonant guitar. I agree with you that they sound different, though it's hard to say which sounds "better." Mike Mike Sampson Martin 0-18 Custom (Adi) -- Martin 0-28VS -- Martin 00-21 GE -- Martin 000-18VS Custom -- Martin D-18 GE -- Santa Cruz OMS -- Kennedy OM -- 1970s Guild F-212
basilking		#19	[-]
(06/14/09 12:47 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tried buffalo horn pins, ebony, bone, etc, as have many above. My personal preference has ended up with FWJ on my '68 00-18 and FWI on '51 D-18. Plenty of low-end growl, not "tinny", good sustain & definition. Put FWI in my now-gone '42 0-15, liked that too. Those pins now on one of my sons' guitars. I like ebony best on '54 5-18 though. De gustibus non disputandum est.
cibby53		#20	[-]
(06/14/09 7:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Started with plastic in my all hog Martin then went to buffalo horn then ebony now I have been using bone pins. To be honest the bone pins sound pretty good. I'm not sure if there is a big enough difference other than with the plastic. The biggest improvement came from replacing the tusq saddle with a fossilized walrus ivory saddle that made the biggest tone improvement. To me besides plastic the pins there was to small a change from bone,buffalo,or ebony for me to pick up.

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