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 jscio |
One very rare Martin |
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(01/11/09 8:27 AM) |
This one has the ultra-rare scrotum bridge: precursor to the modern day belly bridge.
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(01/11/09 8:49 AM) |
I wonder how one walks over a scrotum bridge. Very carefully on the balls of your feet perhaps?...
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(01/11/09 9:03 AM) |
Don't knock it , this is a a great project for the right guy. A 1900 guitar is a piece of history. They didn't know it was a vintage guitar until 10
years ago LOL. I have an 1880's and love it. This one is going to go for some serious cash. Note that the neck has the headstock joint that carries on
today in the Valoute.
john hall
Blues Creek Guitars Authorized Martin Repair Center Hegins PA http://www.bluescreekguitars.com |
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(01/11/09 9:20 AM) |
"Scrotum Bridge".
That's just funny.
Ray
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(01/11/09 10:46 AM) |
It is a cool little guitar. At the price it's at it is well worth the investment and repairs. The bridge however is just bizzare.
-Lee
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I've been known to play with the following: '71 D-18 : '04 D-18V : Backpacker : 000-28EC : '82 D-41 : '66 D-35 : '30 2-17 : '67 00-18C : '44 00-18 : '44 00-17 : LX-175th : '30s 0 Ukes: '20s 2-M Uke: Breedlove OM-M : Gibson C-0 Classic : '98 Martin D12-1 : '70 Guild F-112 : and a '98 Harley-Davidson FLTR Road Glide. Forum intro #992 ************* "What do you all look like?" Post #206 |
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(01/11/09 11:15 AM) |
"I wonder how one walks over a scrotum bridge. Very carefully on the balls of your feet perhaps?..."
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(01/11/09 12:36 PM) |
I am the current high bidder
john hall
Blues Creek Guitars Authorized Martin Repair Center Hegins PA http://www.bluescreekguitars.com |
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(01/11/09 3:12 PM) |
good luck. It looks like it would be a dream restoration job for Martin.
Ray L Teel
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(01/11/09 3:22 PM) |
Is it all original Martin design? I read that some parts have been replaced. Never seen anything like that before. Good luck with the bidding Tippie.
HFS
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(01/11/09 7:21 PM) |
hfs morgan wrote:Probably an original Martin design, but the bridge just dropped like that around 1913-14, I guess 
CONOR
2005 D-18GE (Lady Gwendolen) | 2006 000-15S (Lady Grania) | Backpacker (Miranda G) | Forum Intro P70 "The Beatles seem to be dying in inverse proportion to their talent; this may mean that Ringo Starr will live forever" |
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(01/11/09 7:23 PM) |
Old Neil wrote: Or as they say in Chappaquiddick, "We'll drive off that bridge when we come to it".
CONOR
2005 D-18GE (Lady Gwendolen) | 2006 000-15S (Lady Grania) | Backpacker (Miranda G) | Forum Intro P70 "The Beatles seem to be dying in inverse proportion to their talent; this may mean that Ringo Starr will live forever" |
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(01/11/09 7:30 PM) |
Wow, that's really something. It'll be fun to watch the bidding. Good luck, Tip
Necturus maculosus
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(01/11/09 11:29 PM) Martin Warranty Service Provider |
"It looks like it would be a dream restoration job for Martin"
Believe me, Martin has even less than no interest in pursuing something like this. While an 0-21 in good restorable condition is a desirable thing the horribly oversized bridge boogers this one up pretty badly. That is, no matter what is done to that top cosmetically after the bridge is removed and a more appropriate one is installed the top of the guitar will always and forever bear a shadow from that monstrosity. Mere cosmetic tinkering with color won't make the footprint of the "scrotum" go away as there will be not only color issues to deal with but surface spruce loss as well. While one might consider refinishing the top entirely in an effort to achieve uniformity of top color I still doubt that you could make it disappear entirely without sanding the top considerably in the area of the bridge. And a 19th century Martin top is way thinner than a modern guitar top, and removal of the amount of material that would be necessary to eradicate evidence of that bridge would render the top too structurally compromised to be trusted. And more than once I've removed a giant bridge from a guitar only to find something else like a hole or other poor repair underneath that the oversized bridge was designed to cover. Who knows what might be under there. In addition, if the guy who did this work had judgement poor enough to make and install that bridge I'd be highly suspicious of what might have been done inside. It's likely that the bridge was added, with it's extra surface area, in order to try to stablilze the top for the use of steel strings. Strings that the interior bracing and bridge plate were never meant to support. Was there additional work done inside? Bridge plate replacement? Additional bracing? Who knows what. The job might well appeal to the hobby luthier who is buying the guitar to restore on his own, for whom the considerations of cost are not primary due to the ability to perform the work himself. It might appeal to a pro who wants the guitar to fix and keep (like John). But it's not a guitar that, even at it's current price of $960, offers great opportunities for retail profit after repair. If it were a steel string guitar, even with the same issues, it would hold more commercial promise. But as a gut (nylon) stringed instrument it's overall marketability is at best marginal after the cost of repairs are figured in and the fact that heavily repaired guitars with originality issues are always hard to move. Steve Kovacik KOvacik Guitars and Fretted Instrument Repair www.guitar-repair.com |
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(01/12/09 7:56 AM) |
This bridge is a monstrosity. I am figuring the top may need to be replaced . I do like the old guitars and I do have one that did get from Steve. We will see
what happens as my ceiling on this guitar is about reached and someone else may end up with it. Still it is nice to know that some of these things are still
around. I am hopeful they didn't do too much inside the guitar and who knows , this may be at Nazfest this year
john hall
Blues Creek Guitars Authorized Martin Repair Center Hegins PA http://www.bluescreekguitars.com |
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