Martin M vs Guild F series

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play2praiseHim	Martin M vs Guild F series	Lead	[-]
(05/12/08 1:09 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Anyone have any experience with the Guild F series/size guitars. These seemt o be the closest in size and build to the Martin M size guitars. I am interested in a Tacoma built Guild F47M. Has anyone tried this model?
Roger Kern		#1	[-]
(05/12/08 2:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I haven't tried any of the Tacoma built Fs, but I used to have a 1974 F-50. After 30 years I had to sell it for two reasons - my arthritis no longer liked the low profile neck and the guitar weighed a ton. It was the maple back and sides version. I got a D-18GE instead, which had the 1 3/4" mod-V neck shape I now favor and weighed a lot less. You'll find that the M series is lighter, too. I have since found that I prefer smaller guitars - 00s especially - so I sold the D-18GE. So, don't listen to me. Roger formerly Bobdcat
Jahnli		#2	[-]
(05/12/08 2:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I had a J40 and a few F-series Guilds. As you know, the J has the same dimensions as the M except the J has Dread depth, and the M has 000 depth. Before comparing to Guilds, here's a quickie rundown of the F-series for Guilds- F20 F30 F40/46/47/fortywhatever (the difference is in the woods, not the dimensions) F50 (same dimensions as the JF30/JF55/JF65) The F20 would be like the 0, the F30 would be like the 00, the F40 would be like the 000, and the F50 would be a monster compared to the Gibson SJ200. In all situations, the Guild depth is deeper, not quite Dread depth or Gibson 00 or Santa Cruz H13, but definitely more than a Martin 0/00/000. Therefore, the 0000/M/J is going to be wider in dimension than the F20/30/40 but not as wide as the F50. In depth, the F20/30/40 is deeper than the Martin 0000/M and a bit shallower than the J. My perfect combo for a smallbody is the F47. Not too wide, not too deep, not too shallow. Below is a pic of my F47, amongst a slew of Martins and others. In the first row second from the left is Robin's 0-18. Even being in the back row, you can see that the F47 is bigger. In the first row fourth from the left is Dan's 000-MadRose custom. You can see that the F47 is a little closer in shape to it. The F47 is a bit deeper than it tho. It's almost as if the F47 has the upper bout of an 00 and the lower bout of an 000 with the depth between an M and a J. Hope that helps! 1972 Martin D-28S, 1969 Guild F312, 1966 Guild F-47, 1946 Gibson J-45 Last Edited By: Jahnli 05/12/08 2:44 PM. Edited 3 times.
play2praiseHim		#3	[-]
(05/12/08 3:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks to both of you for the replies. How about the sound. Where do Guilds fit in the tonal spectrum compared to a Martin of similiar size/woods/shape?
Roger Kern		#4	[-]
(05/12/08 4:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Where do Guilds fit in the tonal spectrum compared to a Martin of similiar size/woods/shape? Again, I don't have experience with the new ones but my 74 F-50 had a broad, piano-like sound. Characterizations like this are subjective, but I can say that I would still be playing it if it hadn't become difficult for me to play. The Hoboken, NJ and Westerly, RI made Guilds were fine guitars. Roger formerly Bobdcat
Jahnli		#5	[-]
(05/12/08 5:15 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'd say the Guilds have a more midrange emphasis, quicker compressed decay with less overtones. More honk, less chime than a Martin, and not as "bluesy" and percussive as a Gibson, but definitely has its own signature sound that is very pleasing. Todd played mine and described it as "Archtop-like" and that's a pretty good description. 1972 Martin D-28S, 1969 Guild F312, 1966 Guild F-47, 1946 Gibson J-45
zplay23		#6	[-]
(05/14/08 4:18 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Just came from playing a Guild F-47R(rosewood), which I am considering buying. Can speak to the dimensional comparison with the Martin M body: the current "Traditional Series" Guild F(F-40 and 47) body is very nearly the same as the Martin J and the Guild "Contemporary" F style(CV-1 and CV-2) nearly matches the Martin M(0000). The difference between the Guild F-40/47 and Martin J on the one hand, and the Guild CV-1/2 and Martin M on the other, is body depth: the former guitars are about 4 3/4 - 4 7/8" max depth and the latter, 4 - 4 1/8" in the case of the M, 4 3/8" in the CV-1/2. Also, the Guilds have slightly narrower waists and smaller upper bouts. The Guild that equates to the Martin 000 would be the F-30, though the latter is deeper-bodied. Sound-wise, you just have to try them: there are differences in signature tone as well as guitar-to-guitar differences.
play2praiseHim		#7	[-]
(05/14/08 4:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I never considered the Guild CV models. I guess because of the cutaways. Looks worth checking out. Thanks
zplay23		#8	[-]
(05/14/08 5:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	play2praiseHim wrote: I never considered the Guild CV models. I guess because of the cutaways. Looks worth checking out. Thanks Actually, the CVs are non-cutaway and without pick-ups, whereas the CV-C models come with cutaways and pick-ups. Definitely worth checking out.
hogwldfltr		#9	[-]
(05/15/08 11:42 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Here is my old JF-30: Here is my new F-112: The F-112 will be ready early next week. It is all solid wood and much, much lighter then its arched back, laminated would cousin seen in the top photo. The JF-30 was would literally give me a sore back when I had to stand and play for a few hours. Way to heavy imho. I must admit that the sound was great on the -30 but it was redundant to my then owned D-35. The new laminated Guilds are built like tanks and way as much as well. *********** I've been known to play with the following: D-18 : D-18V : Backpacker : 000-28EC : D-41 : Breedlove OM-M : Gibson C-0 Classic : Martin D12-1 : and a '98 Harley-Davidson FLTR Road Glide *********** Hand me my old guitar, pass the whisky round. Won't you tell everybody you meet that the Candyman's in town. -Hunter/Garcia

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