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It seems to me that some people here are seeing some of the comments as a knock down of 70's martins. In my case this is certainly not
the case. I am merely pointing out that it is interesting that an artist such as Page will choose a good guitar over a legendary guitar and has used it throughout his whole career. Some of the other comments are interesting in the fact that they seem to be saying that Page uses a 1971 D28 because he is so good that he doen't care about the year of the guitar or that he may actually prefer the sound of this particular guitar over other more expensive ones. Some or all of the answers to the question may lie there. The movie features three different guitarist whose styles are distinctly different. One who doesnt actually care about the quality of the instrument he plays and feels that the passion with which he plays overrides the quality of the instrument. One who will only play expensive vintage instruments who feels that the sonic landscape he paints with his effects units overrides his lack of technical ability and one with enormous technical ability who plays great guitars ( except for a 1971 D28) |
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Spook69 |
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It's just a quality tool he uses. |
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Jamada |
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"Play the music, not the instrument." ~Author Unknown" |
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kyluckyman |
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Jamada wrote:I'd be thrilled to own a 70's D-28. If you don't like yours, ship it to me! 2009 Martin MMV
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Eiland |
The 71' d-28 was his more expensive acoustic | ||
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The opening riff of Stairway to heaven was actually played on his Harmony Sovereign (which even today costs less than 500$).
Funny thing that one of the classiest guitar parts of all times was played on such a cheap instrument. |
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homejame1 |
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one of my 'best gigs'
the new yardbirds ( yep)thats what they went out as before led zep. the Argus Butterfly . Peterlee . n east England . just before they got the deal- but it was all the first album if you can imagine Dazed and Confused belting round a tiny little back room in a pub?? was I lucky or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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MacHD28 |
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jscio wrote:Jimmy apparently didn't realize it was not only a "bad batch" Martin but not even "played in" yet. What was this guy thinkin anyway? :Harmony Sovereign (acoustic) : played on Led Zeppelin III and on tour in 1970. Perhaps time travel will soon allow someone from the present to go back and save him before it's too late. Then we'll get the D-45 and 30's Herringbone Zep tunes and let him know that his 1971 D-28 can only be used as a beater and played around campfires.(Did they have "Deet" back then)? The Harmony Sovereign in perspective will only be allowed as a prop in videos and movies or perhaps if one needed an oar during bad weather while lost at sea,,, P.S:geeterpicker, I feel your pain brother. Just send me your "bad" 1971 D-28, (shipping will be on you, don't worry about insuring it as it's value is minimal), and I will "dispose" of it for you. jscio: I have contacted Doc and Marty and as soon as the fuel processor and fuel supply from the land fill arrive I should be able to go back in time and set things right so Jimmy and Led Zeppelin can make it big and have the proper tools of the trade |
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Jamada |
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kyluckyman wrote:I assumed jscio was making a joke. I'm amused by the negative comments on the '70s Martins since my '72 D-28 sounds just like a choir of angels. I've held on to it since '72 and with all the guitars I've bought and sold since then (30 or so) , I never considered selling it. However if I decide I don't like it after all, I'll send it right over. - Bruce |
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"I'm amused by the negative comments on the '70s Martins"
Well you've got to remember that some folks think these guitars are rubbish. It's really funny because, switch out the back sides for Braz RW and make a few other very small changes, and suddenly these people are fighting to buy them. They're called 50/60s Martins. Amazing, isn't it? Same with straight-bracing. Straight-bracing is, apparently, the worst thing that can possibly happen to a guitar. Unless its got Braz RW back and sides and was built before 1970. Then it's okay. Then it's cool. Go figure. |
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chap |
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Could we considerate the 1967 Neil Young D-45 as a 70's Crap?
What guitar are making for? Playing! http://www.provide.net/~cfh/martin.html Flat tops from 1970 to present are considered to be excellent utility instruments, but are not collectible. Staring in 1976, Martin has been undergoing many changes with numerous reissues, new models, limited editions, etc. Workmanship has improved greatly from the early 1970's, and Martin is now producing some of its best guitars in over 20 years. While not currently collector's items, these intruments have excellent workmanship, sound, and playability.
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Jamada |
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"Flat tops from 1970 to present are considered to be excellent utility
instruments, but are not collectible. "
Chap you are right, this is the general concensus on '70s Martins. It is interesting that the perception of worth can change over time. For instance, in the early '70s I bought a '59 strat for $300 US from a major music store. It was considered a used guitar, with a neck showing "unfortunate discoloration and wear" from playing. Also an excellent utility instrument. I wasn't thinking about collectability then (or I never would have let it go) but I did know that it looked just like the strat on the back cover of the Layla album and it sounded great. I never was crazy about the neck, tho', but that is a different thread. Not to say the '70s Martins will become the holy grail...just that most are excellent instruments. Maybe there needs to be a '70s Martin owner's club to rehabilitate their reputation. I nominate Jimmy Page as member number one. |
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JBH |
Wiki to the rescue | ||
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Mr. Page is a collector of the highest order. Much of his collection resides in an unspecified warehouse in the New York area.
Or it could be the combination of drugs and hearing degradation...
Jimmy Page is reputed to own over 1,500 guitars. Page revealed this rough estimate to BBC Radio 2 presenter Stuart Maconie in June 2005. |
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jscio |
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""Flat tops from 1970 to present are considered to be excellent utility
instruments, but are not collectible. "
Yet they continue to increase in value. Someone is collecting them. |
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hogwldfltr |
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Rucker |
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Hi,
I would pick a prewar D28 instead. I think most people would.One thing to consider: Everyone is different. If I were choosing a guitar to keep and play, I'd take a new one over a pre-war every time. I'm quirky that way -- I want to put my own miles on a guitar. I want to be there to hear it mature. I want to be able to look at a ding and say, "Yep, I remember when that happened." I'm not saying any of this ever entered Page's mind, I'm just saying there are those for whom a pre-war is not necessarily the first choice in a dream guitar. I wouldn't trade my bought-brand-new '99 D28 for any other guitar. Ever. Ryan
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'99 D-28 Yep, just the one... |
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d35d42man |
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For the type of music that Jimmy Page plays, I don't think pre-war vs. 70's stock makes a hill of beans of difference. IMO, once an accoustic guitar is
amplified or electrified,(again, especially playing that kind of music), most of the "qualities" that us weenies around here thrive on, get lost in
the mix anyway. Jimmy thrashing on a prewar D-28 would be a waste. You don't need a golden hammer to build a great house. I'm sure Jimmy Page could
afford a lot nicer version of anything he owns. With the 71 D-28 in the spotlight, why haven't we heard from KYDAVE???
Joe |
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davejohnh |
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Is the guitar definitely stock or is it a custom/ modified D28?
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Spook69 |
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With the 71 D-28 in the spotlight, why haven't we heard from KYDAVE??? |
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Flat5sub |
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Jamada wrote: Good idea. I'll nominate the late great Michael Hedges as co-chair. |
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